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[MCC Admin]

We want to make the MCC Online Car Show as good as it can be. If you have suggestions or comments on how we can improve it, please reply to this thread with your suggestions.

[barry2952]

The contest is a great idea, the judging is fine, but the poll is problematic because it boils down to not how nice or cool or rare your car is, it simply boils down to how well you network with other people.

I have little use for social networks but they sure come in handy if you want a lot of votes in a "contest" like this.

This is what happens when you let people vote for their buddies.

This POS is what won a similar contest at the New York Times. Your team should judge, not the public.

http://collectiblecars.nytimes.com/Contest_2008/Vote.asp#COL8111523

[MCC Admin]

@barry2952: Thank your for your feedback.

I understand your point and somewhat agree. But the fact is any contest/competition can be significantly (and unfairly) skewed, regardless of how it's judged/scored. To your suggestion, there is no guarantee that myself or any of "the team" couldn't be influenced in someway or another.

My hope is that those participating realize this is just for fun. It's a casual way to show off and talk about your car with added benefit of possibly winning something.

That being said, this is the first MCC Online Car Show and a number of things will certainly change for the second one. If something doesn't work this time, we'll find a better way to do it next time. And it's exactly this kind of feedback that will help us improve going forward.

Keep it coming.

[jparsons80]

Thank you for your vote to be one of the finalist.

I think a possible improvement would be to exclude the ongoing results until all the votes are in, or just show the top 3 with no order until the counting is complete and closed.

I agree with the previous commentor that it can become a networking competition. I will be very honest, I did send the site out to all my e-mail friends and a lot of them did vote for my car and also commented on the 67 Goat!

I voted for the both the Goat and my car, because you can make multiple votes.

Usually the "good ol'boys" take care of their own at local car shows when you have peer judging. Someone in your class might have served on the committee and therefore might be favored.

I wonder if there is a business for "independent judges" who are qualified to really make a good appraisal of a car?

Obviously photos can not tell the whole story about a car. Nicks, dings, smudges, good side, bad side, etc etc can be hidden and even editing can be used, however, as you suggested this is for fun and that is the way I approached it.

I really enjoyed having my car entered in the MCC contest and I hope you will have more of them. I can see this really growing.

I really enjoy the My Classic Car show and I especially like the segments with Jay Leno collection.

Hope to see you in Carilsle, Pa. this Spring or the GM National

Skip Parsons

[barry2952]

I certainly don't want it to sound like sour grapes, but exactly what I predicted before the contest began has come true as evidenced by the previous post.

While I'm honored to be included in your finalist group, I'm also chagrinned that the results are playing out the way they are. The voting is so lopsided that you must consider our contention that this is merely a popularity contest, which is fine, in the right context.

This should be a lesson for future "contests". My suggestion would be a separate award for "People's Choice" be given using the current voting method while serious voting be done by knowledgeable aficionados, possibly Concours judges, that would accurately assess all the aspects of the cars presented.

Frankly, while I love the Firebird, the wagon would get my choice as "People's Choice". To make a People's Choice award even more fair, votes should be screened by IP address as one can easily have dozens of e-mail addresses. Votes should be restricted to one vote per IP. Easy to do. Ask your IT guy.

We all understand why you are putting on this contest. It's clearly to build site traffic and build a viable car community. Both fine goals. However, allowing multiple voting from the same IP defeats that purpose as it provides a false gauge and provides little credibility to the site. The true gauge is how many people come back, not how many were brought here just to vote.

As a veteran of participating in over 50 Concours and being on the BOD of three Concours over the years I can tell you that great pains are taken to avoid "stuffing" the ballot box. That appears to not be the case here.

I've met Dennis Gage at a number of Concours. It's clear that he's well known. I'm sure he could put together a panel of judges that would be fair and impartial.

I guess that was $.03 worth.

[Herbie3Rivers]

See I don't know if it's me and I missed something, but how were the cars that were selected for voting picked? I didn't check the forum every day, was there a vote prior to the final one to select the cars?

[barry2952]

They were picked by staff on this forum and then put up for their "popularity contest".

"He who has the most friends, or the most time on their hands, wins." Some "contest", if that's what you want to call it.

[GeeTee]

My two cents here. The Firebird and the GTO were either 1 or 2 in my voting. I put in a vote for the Safari wagon because i thought was a great car and I like cars no one else has. I wanted to toss in a best engine category whic would have been won by the Mustang because thats one of the Greates engines I've evr seen.

[Hazardman]

I think we had some great cars here and good participation from all, I know not every car could be picked, but the intention was to give all of us a way to proudly show our cars.

[MCC Admin]

Agreed. I think it went fairly well for the first time. We'll be doing another one so keeping checking back.